There goes the third world again.

We all know the changes in Egypt and Tunisia and Yemen are causing parties around the camp fires of the terrorists across the world. It’s all to their benefit. Who’s next Saudi Arabia with their oil at stake, Pakistan with their nuclear weapons. This is for real.

There is a reason for everything and I believe one of them for this is to get us back on track moving the renewable energy and defense agendas. It’s better to have independence from oil and fight the terrorists on their own soil than on ours.

I’ve been doing this solar thing for a long time and every 5 years something has happened to make renewable grow like crazy, it slows then boom another growth spurt. I predict shortages of solar panels again within 4 moths and you know the price per watt is going to go up. I am already making plans to raise prices. My inventory just increased in value by 20% overnight.

A lot of people are thinking about jumping into making money on solar one way or another. There are so many seminars on every aspect of solar you know some of them have to be totally worthless. Nasty rumors about companies are also flying around town. Recently I received a call from an old friend of 40 years who is developing a public/private 1.3 million sq. ft. development and someone told him we only sold USED solar modules and he was one of my best friends! Jealously is alive and well out there so [people are having more trouble than ever believing anyone about what’s real in solar because these solar guys are all bad mouthing each other as rip offs. Why is it that everyone wants to be king of the hill in solar so bad. I know I do. Its the Sun’s fault, its too overpowering.

Well I keep thinking about going out and buying guns, ammo, medicine, food, water filtration systems, remote land and maybe even a hideout just in case to go to. Look at Egypt, Haiti, and Hurricane season that’s coming my place in the world is due for a major Hurricane, I said it is a fact we are due for a Hurricane, overdue and the third world is already going nuts, it could be Chavez, weather, nuclear, earthquake, war, ….and a lot more solar that seems more  for real .

I’m not afraid I just am excited about this enth rebirth of solar. I can’t wait for tomorrow morning. It’s like waking up at 10 years old and running out to continue working on your tree house/clubhouse. I couldn’t be happier than selling solar and helping people to get the power they need and to go green if that’s their thing.

By the way the photos and stories that you sent us are all posted on our web site under systems with SUN panels, etc. We have received a ton of them and each one is fascinating to me at least. Check them out ant the people I bet they look a lot like YOU.

I just read an article that blew my mind

The DOE is giving a Billion Dollars to First Solar in Loan Guarantees to build a plant capable of powering 100,000 homes and that will provide 400 jobs. 400 JOBS are you kidding me!!\n\nDivide 400 into 1,000,000,000  that’s TWO MILLION FIVE HUNDERED THOUSAND DOLLARS PER JOB we just spent, PER JOB. Oh yeah we got this huge power plant but with thin film modules that are still unproven to last 25 years in even the best of climates let alone Yuma. I’m from Tucson. Have you ever been to Yuma in the summer, its hell on earth.\n\nSo much for all the touting of  the advantage of using thin film modules in cold climates.\n\nThat could have been 100,000 systems on top of homes or 300,000 systems partially running 300,000 homes (they need to be weatherized and re-applianced first anyway). This would have generated 25,000 to 75,000 rooftop home system related jobs instead of 400 on a remote flate plate field surrounded with barbed wire in the middle of NOWHERE. It could have produced an immeasurable amount of public education and  human interest via word of mouth between homeowners (YOU) and your friends, family, neighbors, etc. talking about and trading technical info on solar electric power. Oh yeah don’t forget the value of a 100,000 news stories on Google, newspapers, magazines, TV, etc.  So many kids would  see that we aren’t total losers as adults running this country. Thats an exaggeration of course their bragging about it, 400 JOBS, come on give us a break. It sounded like a sweet deal for the Secretary of Energy himself. If this plant fails or any plant this size fails the investors in solar will get fried and the taxpayers will get stuck holding the bag. At least they could have used crystalline silicon (30 to 40 year+ life) and given the power to the people who are guaranteeing and paying for it and would love to put it on their own homes. God that would have been a ton of jobs. tens of thousands, and the training, the timing (the PV industry is in a little trouble right now) oh man.  How many times do we have to see this happen before someone stops it.\n\nNo one will ever see this system (or the wildlife habitat it destroys – yes there is life in the deserts of Arizona) except in boring dull photos of a huge black field of possibly soon to be solar panels losing power from the heat and degradation of thin film’s output. Thin film in YUMA, its like putting ice cream in the oven, nothing survives intact for very long, the desert destroys everything. Thats why no one lives there unless your tough as nails. You can’t be made of thin film and expect to survive in my opinion. What the hell do I know I am no engineer that for sure but something stinks here. I’m probably just jealous, I am, but at least that’s logical. We need to get the people involved and they are reacting to all the incentives so we positively asking questions to find out how they can get a system from coast to coast and even world wide.\n\nHave you ever been to Phoenix and tried to visit First Solar, I challenge you to even get a meaningful response over the phone or email out of them. We had to have my daughter Christy to sneak in. She walked backwards into an elevator (on my orders). It didn’t do any good, no one would even talk to her its like the algorithm of Google advertising, top secret.\n\nSome people who haven’t seen all the promises of thin film, “the solar technology of the future”, materialize solidly for the last 25 years, must really find this strange. We, you and I are guar ranting it now! Some companies in thin film took investors to the cleaners due to their ignorance thin film degradation over the years. The media helped hype the thin film solar material of the future story to make it seem like it had already arrived, go to any major solar trade show it’s represented by about 10% of the exhibitors there still.. Sure you can get cheap thin film, we sell it, but you this is like Daniel in the Lion’s Den (or something like that) but more importantly we are supporting putting solar in the wrong places. If we always talk about how many houses these systems will run then we should put the damn systems on the houses in the first place. I predict Yuma will eat any thin film you put out there alive before its time.\n\nI am not anti First Solar (they make a good product), thin film (hell we sell it for 98¢/watt  {I doubt First Solar does}), solar in the desert or solar in general, but some solar criticisms have more to do with our government’s solar support and should be directed more at rooftops for homes, doesn’t the word independence turn people on any more? At least on a grid tied home you have that option some day and there’s nothing like turning off the utility company even if its only half the year and running deep and silent off a freaking star 97M miles away or am I crazy. Better crazy happy then sane and sad anyway, I believe. I wish First Solar and all its employees al the luck in the world but beware of the SUN in Yuma, Arizona. If things don’t work out we would love to buy your used solar modules for use in Canada.\n\nBy the way I found out at least 5 people are reading my blogs. We are going to get Adam and Louis our engineers, writing  tech stuff on here soon and we might even post your comments and start some thread thingys (I feel like George Bush on a computer) In case you haven’t noticed I don’t post your comments. It’s because I don’t have to, its not illegal, ha ha). But, we intend to change that. We are trying to get the famouse Solar Guppy (well known for his high technological intellect in all aspects of PV) to come visit us and give us some help) He’s the David Katz, Dr. Roger Messenger of the solar blog world at least on Arizona’s Wind and Sun solar blog we we got ourselves kicked off for whatever. NO SOUP FOR YOU!\n\n4:21AM if you ever come to Miami, its a lot nicer than they say (my brother Richard loved to point out how much he hated it every time he ever visited us) we have this very cool little store you should visit. We call it the World’s Largest Solar Store  because it is.

SunFrost make great DC and AC refrigerator freezers

Billy called me today and was worried that I was upset at him because of some dumb thing I must have said in one of my late night blogs. I assured him it was a typical cowardly error as I hid behind my computer typing away like I need to have more business than everyone else. These guys are awesome they both make super products and the truth is they are far superior to our own brand but ours is just the  least expensive. People like them all, and they all work, someone just needs to challenge us all to a walk I mean cool off to see the real difference, it would be fascinitating.\n\nSounds like a great Home Power article to me. We’d love to do it but no time. We would donate a refrigerator to home power if they would (much less expensive for us ha ha). By the way hi Larry. Billy and I agree your a very   funny guy. I miss your very  funny  laugh and funny face.

Solar Panel Prices continue to Fall.

By the end of the year solar panels will be $1.50/watt for UL listed modules. Right now they are as low as $1.65. We will be having a huge sale out of our new S.F. warehouse to get the ball rolling faster in Cal. will probably start tomorrow. The above prices are for the largest wholesalers.  We will have the same for retail and wholesale.\n\nSurplus modules are used, just blemished, scratched, dented, slightly lower power, discontinued, remnants of runs, onsey towseys, a container that fell of a container ship or who knows but they are able to produce the same power and last just as long as regular modules because of their construction. They lower the  price per watt $.50/watt to over  $2.00/watt (-70%) of a normal module’s retail price. The best price we have ever found was recently, we got 1 year old laminates (no frames) for .40/watt. Of course sometimes we can get some for free if we order enough containers. Anybody want 2000 monocrystalline glass laminated 2 watt modules? School Since Teachers maybe?\n\nThe world is awash in solar modules. The Government Incentives are working but in reverse as well as forward. The old incentives reached a peak already worldwide and really woke up a great industry rush of growth. As incentives are decreased in Europe and elsewhere Chinese stock is bursting at the seems with no where to go. Prices are dropping and Surplus modules which reached the same cost as utility produced electric power (grid parity) a long time ago, are now even cheaper than the utility. Unfortunately U.S. Companies are closing, both small and large because they can’t compete with China and Chinese dumping. The Government of China tells every single Chinese company what to sell their modules and cells for. You can tell because when you go to the largest PV shows on earth, every Chinese  module talk to has exactly the same price. Of course my comments are a generalization and could be wrong but its my opinion today Jan. 21, 2011 and also if I was China I would do the same thing. To me China is like one huge company, the Dominican republic was like that when it came to inverter/chargers for their power outages, collusion instead of a dictator. All the buyers got together in that case.\n\nIt’s getting late again.\nJohn.

New section of our site called Systems with Sun Panels

We have a presentation prepared by Coset of our office staff ((just escaped from Cuba- 1 yr. in U.S.) She collected them from our homeowners of approximately 75 installations, usually installed by the homeowner. We are just getting started. Everyone loves these modules. Each owner has included several pictures so be sure to click thru the cover shots you choose to look at. And, please if you have not sent us your photo’s please do so and tell us where they are (city, state, country), system type of panels descriptions.\n\nWe’ve sold more surplus panels than any other company in the world at the worlds lowest prices and we are proud of it. We intend to sell a lot more. If you have any questions please email me at We have thousands of them in stock in our warehouses now across the YUSA not in some distributor or other dealers warehouses . We have our own warehouse in Miami, Phoenix and now S.F. Cal.\n\nJohn

Systems On Our Site With SUN Solar Panels

I worked for Photowatt in Tempe, Arizona approximately 30 years ago. They were the 3rd largest photovoltaic manufacturer in the U.S. which, I believe, made them the 3rd largest in the world since there were almost no other manufacturers in the world. Anyway it was a great experience. I loved it there, Bob McGinnis the CEO had worked at Bell Labs where the first solar cells were invented. The world market for PV was limited to telecommunications, Government R&D Projects, water pumping, navigational lighting,  remote homes (mostly in marijuana territories) and telemetry. It was a unique experience in the early 80’s. I was a sales engineer.\n\nOne day I was in the back and I found Rich Griswold and another technician all excited as they pulled out modules from a big trash bin. They were modules with minor problems but that they knew produced full power and that would make no difference in lifetime if small repairs were made. We heard a voice and turned around and there was the CEO Bob McGinnis staring at us smiling. He said to leave them alone that they had to be destroyed, I think. Anyway we didn’t of course and from then on as soon we knew the coast was clear we snatched them all up.\n\nThings have changed since then and now many major manufacturers will gladly sell their Grade B, C, D and F Modules. Of course it depends on their differing definitions as to what they are talking about. Many times we have ordered B and even C modules and gotten Grade A instead.\n\nThe point of this article is to say that we are now collecting photos of systems with SUN Modules (Grade B) and posting them on the web. It’s good to see them because you cannot tell the difference in appearance or output of any of them. They are all on our website for anyone to see. We are adding more everyday.So far we have about 60 of them so if you have any SUN modules we could show on our site please send them in to . To see them just go to and look at the top of the web site home page and you will find a strip at the top that says “Systems With Sun Modules” just click it and you will find about 60 systems with SUN modules and the owners comments.\n\nWe have sold megawatts of these modules over the years since then and we have never had a problem with anyone of them.\n\nJohn Kimball

Used Solar Modules

We have found 2 containers of used solar panels. They will be shipped to us next week. 900 pcs. of Solar World 220 to 230 watts each and 700 laminates from 200 to 290 watts each. The modules have UL and a 25 year warranty. We haven’t put them up on the web site yet but if your interested keeps your eyes peeled. They should be up by Fri.


Looking for Small Modules 10 to 130 Watts?

We just received 2 containers of our small SUN modules with with Evergreen and Sunpower Cells. They never last long, for real. They are Grade A and are very inexpensive because they don’t have UL. Compared to the competition they should be significantly cheaper. If not please us know especially on those with the Sunpower cells. Their efficiency is the highest in the industry, around 18% = less area needed for the same power, great for sail boats and RV’s.

This Is A Fact Worth Knowing For Off-Grid Installations

A lot of people aren’t aware of the following:

1. The Fed.Solar Incentive for off-grid applications is very simple, you can have the tax credit or a rebate. The tax owed at the end of the year can be credited by 30% of the amount you owe on your taxes OR you can apply for a rebate and the Treasury Dept. has to send you a check (I think it’s within 60 days) for that 30% of the cost of your system and installation.

2. Do it your self off grid installations qualify. You do not need a licensed contractor.

3. The solar panels do not have to have any certification to qualify. They are an excellent choice for keeping the costs down on off grid low voltage (12, 24, or 48V) systems.

4. The state’s full incentives can be added on top of the Fed. incentive for the full cumulative amount in some states.


By doing your own system’s installation on an independent power system off the gird, by using less expensive non UL solar panels, and taking the Fed. solar tax credit / rebate (30%) you can achieve total energy independence at the most affordable price possible for solar electric power today.

Last Time We Got It Wrong:


A few years back we overstocked and the prices started falling, we lost around $100,000.

Now, once again, prices are dropping again. This is a volatile industry. We get requests everyday day  now from around the globe from companies trying to get us to buy their excess modules. We’ve been working hard to reduce our purchasing and also to dump the most expensive Grade A (those that we paid too much for back in 09) and are just kept buying the best priced grade A, and of course the B’s and  SUN modules. Since we started well before Thanksgiving all of the PV panels we have in stock are perfectly priced. What a relief.

If there are people out there who want to put grid-tie solar on their house and have good local incentives the time is now and if there are people out there who are off grid and want to put solar on a farm, ranch, cabin, island home, sailboat, RV that is off grid its also the time. In all honesty I don’t think the price can go much lower as manufacturers are now selling at or below cost. 

If it’s grid connect consider one of the Suntech, Canadian Solar modules, or DuPont. They are the best deals, I think

If  it’s off grid our best deals are on the SUN Module at $1.30/watt with a 20 year warranty. If you want to see them and get an idea of how well they work, look at “Systems with Sun Modules” and read what the owners say about them. Remember you can get the 30% Fed. solar rebate / tax credit incentive on off gird non UL solar panels and they can be owner installed.