SUN Solar Panels with 30% Tax Credit

The SUN DA095-A 95 watt amorphous module comes from one of the leading science and technology companies in the world. Call me for information. I can’t publish it.\n\nIf you spend $300/mo. on electric Kwh alone (about a $400/mo. total bill) and you pay 7¢/Kwh you will need 355 of these modules (35,000 watts) and 4,500 Sq. ft. of space (roof or ground). The cost will be $26,980 and the payback will be 7 years for the modules only. You will need an inverter, mounting racks, charge controllers and batteries, etc. All that could add another 40% and then there is the installation for at least  a dollar a watt or another $35,000. Now the cost is $72,000 and the payback is 20 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah I forgot inflation, the rising cost of electricity, etc.\n

Solar Incentives in your States

\nIf you have any incentives in your state www.dsireusa.com the cost and payback of just the modules, 7 years, could be half that, just 3.5 years, but incentives are running out. This is a very half ass attempt to calculate payback but at least its understandable, I think, for about anyone. Unfortunately it points to the need to get the cost of solar down to about 50¢/watt. The vast majority of the issues with the cost of solar is the amount of Kwhrs it takes to run our current air conditioners, lighting, refrigerators and freezers, water heaters, etc. If we could use this energy more efficiently and less often it could make a world of difference but…\n\nNow I will turn off the Christmas tree lights that have been on all day and night, a half dozen lights that have been on all night ( couple all day), my computer, oh yeah and the idiot box, all day and night as well.\n

$1.20/Watt Modules

\nYou know when I started this I thought the $1.20/watt modules above with the 30% tax credit, hence 80¢/watt, would make some great numbers appear. I know my simplistic calculations would make allot of people cringe. But apparently, unless you are off grid, especially with the Federal tax credit, which does not restrict non UL modules and do it yourself installations, off-the-grid solar is for real because running a generator costs about 40¢/Kwh. or 6 times the cost of the average Kwhr from a U.S. Utiltiy Co.\n\nStill allot of off grid people have put off solar, even for off grid, because of the up front cost, but that cost is likely to come down because of: oversupply of modules, inverters, solar batteries, etc. in the grid connect market (this may happen sooner than you might think). We will sell anyone a solar system regardless of whose paying for it but there is no secret that we enjoy the off grid market sales the most. The installations, locations, and especially the people who install and own them are fascinating. Most importantly,  they are for real.\n\nMaybe if you live in some place where the peak hourly rate for electricity is like 28¢/Kwh or 4 times the national average then with all the available incentives the payback would be 5  or maybe 3 years, then it sounds very good. There is such a place, parts of Los Angeles. There might be more.

Lots of Distributors On The Internet Don’t Have Warehouses

They make their ads and web sites look like they have big warehouses and they have nothing. They take orders then just  find other suppliers to drop ship it. It’s ok but we don’t do that.\n\nI’ve never seen pictures of any big warehouses full of inventory on the website of Wholesale Solar, SolarHome, Affordable Solar, AltE, or any of the other companies advertising hundreds of products “IN STOCK AND READY TO SHIP NOW!”. As far as I know we are the only ones who do. At least the others don’t show it if they do and that seems like a pretty important thing you would want to know. There are a lot of companies out there that are nothing but computers.

What If All The Solar Business Failed?

Maybe this would happen: Everywhere you looked people are trying to get rid of stock as fast as they can. All those factories in China, Germany, Japan are closing left and right. They could not sell their stock not even at $1.30/watt because all the supports were withdrawn. Solar had to compete against .10/watt utility power.\n\nI kind of saw this happen once. Because of a poorly written piece of legislation everyone in the State of New Mexico could have as many free $10,000 solar water pumping systems they wanted. You just had to pay 1 cent of taxes and you were qualified. You had to get your system ‘so blueprints approved with a stamp by an engineer with the state energy office and he loved to do it. He was a big supporter of PV. It took them about 6 months to rewrite the legislation to end it and all these systems in downtown Albuquerque got torn down and moved out to the hills where they made perfect sense on off grid independent homes and buildings.\n

Grid tied systems

\nSo maybe this would happen. the panels installed on grid tied systems as well as the modules that could not be sold because of oversupply would migrate towards these areas as well. It would be a boom for off grid living and land developers in rural areas where no power existed. In the mountains, foothills and on islands solar would flourish like never before. Non profit organizations providing assistance to areas in need might find a lot of help for their schools, clinics, orphanages, etc. as well.\n\nI saw a map of the world one time with thousands of tiny people painted in. Most of them were huddled in offices, cars and the military and those areas were about half the earth’s surface. Those areas were all grey, and brown but on the edges of the earth where it was nice and green still where all these other people who were enjoying life so much more than the other people who were going crazy dealing with greed, lust, fame, war, etc. Some of them were actually using solar panels out there I think.\n

Solar Panels

\nAt .50 and .75/watt solar panels would provide plenty of cheap electricity for years to come. Maybe its about time to start thinking about moving out of the city. I hear Panama is nice, the Bahamas, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Kentucky, Colorado, Polynesia, Australia…\n\nThen after the next big disaster like a couple of super tanker spills off of Cal. and Florida and/or an oil embargo or other nightmare where there isn’t any more gasoline for no one knows how long all the funding for solar will come back into fashion and they can rebuild all those power plants reenact all the financial incentives and you can come back and get another system so you can fly back and forth from the city to go to movie theaters, grocery stores, shopping malls, golf courses, sports events and fast cars and great restaurants.