New York PV opportunities.

3 big PV incentives combine to form one of the best opportunities in PV in the Eastern USA. 

You can take the Fed. Tax credit of 30%, a State incentive of 25% up to $5,000 and get back up to $.40/W from the N.Y. State Energy Research and Development Authority (NYSERDA).

JK

Sharp newly arrived modules.

We just sent mailing to 240,000. If your serious about purchasing at this great price, call now as only 40,000 have gone out and there are only 3 containers.

Also, as mentioned before, the 300 W laminates are a great deal if you can figure out a way to mount them. I think they are only  .29/W by the pallet.

3 containers of Sharp just arrived. Lowest cost ever.

Please call first but these are just being unloaded, sorted and prepared for shipment to customers.

Best deal we have ever had, however, laminates are also a great deal our price was less than .30/W for both. These always go fast. Not hype just the truth.

Laminates need j-box and creative ideas for mounting. 
John

Prices are going up folks!

Right now the industry worldwide is raising the price of solar panels. The prices for panels being offered to us in the last 3 weeks have all been coming in higher. I’d say 5 to 10 cents a watt higher. That equals about 20% to 25% higher. I guess the reason is, “it’s the season”, at least that’s what I hear.

But isn’t S P R I NG the season for everything? I remember before photovoltaic’s, the solar season was Sept. and Oct., when people began to think about heat. The only solar then was active and passive solar water and space heating systems. Now days, it’s funny, because they’re more cost effective than PV. but just aren’t as sexy as PV.

Anyway, yeah prices are going up, and 5 or 10 cents a watt is a lot when prices were the lowest in history and constantly going down a few cents per watt every few months. But the market is getting saturated I think or people just don’t know about us.

Just 4 years ago, we had a sale for 5 MW, (80 containers), at any qty, for .78/W and sold out in 5 days. Now we just finished selling 4 MW, in container and pallet qtys. only, of SolarWorld for .48/W  and .58/W and it took 45 days to sell it all.

Strangely the price for smaller quantities like container loads or even pallets can still be found. I’m talking our prices, we can buy for .22, .23, .25, .28, .32/W. Lately we have been finding brand new Top Tier Grade A modules, in container quantities, with UL and 25 yr. warranties, for as little as .25/W. All these modules are completely custom’s cleared.

Inverters are also becoming available on the open market, and we are getting good prices on those as well. Again, not container loads but pallet quantities. Yesterday I was told we were offered  offered .10/W for top quality central station big name brand overstocked product. I’m not too familiar with inverter pricing like I used to be, but I was told that was about 50% off the wholesale price.

If a distributor can make a 15% gross margin, that should just about pay the bills for a company with a big warehouse, and about 20 employees. After overhead they will probably break even at the end of the year, won’t have to pay taxes, everyone will get a raise and get to have a job in a most unique energy industry. At the same time your doing something good for our Earth’s environment. This business model won’t make you super rich but it will give you a good life.

Sun Electronics’ is here to make solar energy affordable. Oh and please give us a chance to bid against any competition out there, I’m pretty sure we will have the better price. At least that’s what thousands of people have been saying for decades.

If it isn’t, call me.

John

John Kimball

Owner

305-498-1863 Cell.

Stealing is a real drag.

Companies try to steal my mailing list, even though we have one of the best security systems money can buy. It’s called a friend who gets paid by Chase Bank to break into their computer system.

14 years ago we had an employee give a copy of our list, when it numbered just 5,000 customers, to a module broker in Georgia. My attorney who was on that list has been getting emails from them ever since even though he swears he’s never heard of them and has no interest in buying solar unless it was from me. He’s a wonderful man by the way.

Anyway we have always had a list of dummy email addresses on the list to monitor potential misuse. So, while there’s not much we can do about it, it’s amazing to me that anyone could be so bold. So, if you get unsolicited offers from a solar module broker in Ga. you might tell him he’s not as smart as he thinks. You might also look at his BBB rating, it stinks.

I just made more money than I’ll ever need in real estate so this is all about feeling victimized, but darn it I spent my whole life doing this. I’m not happy when my whole office gets emails from him sent to their personal email addresses. I also see my 100 dummy addresses getting them as well. I just got two more of his emails just the other day.

Yeah stealing is a real drag. Report STEALING. I’m just curious to know to what extent he’s still doing it. If you think you have received unsolicited ads from this guy or anyone else please send an email to jk@sunelec.com,

John

P.S. The guy who gave him the addresses ran off to Perth, Australia. He was an intern I hired from Turkey whom we caught skimming money, using a phony bank account for WT’s. Nice guys. Be real careful who you send money to!

So many great deals it’s getting to be a bore…not.

Since yesterday, Wednesday, we were offered 20 MW of SunPower, 8 containers of Trina, 1 MW of Canadian Solar and 12 MW Auction for REC has not been awarded and bids are still being considered. 

Also, 50 grid tie central inverters from 3kW to 8kW plus 4 extra large 3 phase inverters. As well, hundreds of mounting rails and thousands of end and mid-clamps. 

All of the above equipment is in the USA and brand new. Prices, quantities and specificationsfor this overstock inventory will be published and sent by email to our newsletter mailing list of 250,000 this Monday or Tuesday. 

Oops I just forgot to include this Chinese stock list just sent to us yesterday: unfortunately we can only sell it offshore😞

CHINESE SOLAR MODULES INVENTORY LIST

BRAND M/P   GRADE POWER SIZE AMOUNT CIF PRICE(W) WARRANTY

RENE SOLA POLY 72-CELLS B 310 1956*992*40 1000 $0.41 NO

YING FU SOLAR POLY 72-CELLS A 300-315 1956*992*40 750 $0.48 5 YEARS

YING FU SOLAR POLY 72-CELLS B 310 1956*992*40 500 $0.40 NO

JINKO SOLAR POLY 72-CELLS B 310 1954*992*40 2100 $0.43 NO

GCL-POLY SOLAR POLY 72-CELLS B 310 1956*992*40 660 $0.40 NO

HAREON SOLAR MONO 60-CELLS A 260-270 \ 1000 0.45 NO

HAREON SOLAR DUAL GLASS MODULE 60-CELLS A 255-265 \ 1MW 0.45 NO

CANADIAN SOLAR POLY 60-CELLS A/B 255-265 \ 244

CANADIAN SOLAR POLY 72-CELLS A/B 305-310 \ 209

There are hundreds of thousands more heavily discounted PV modules, all sizes, makes and models. You can get them new, with UL and a standard  warranty with an expected lifetime of 30, 40 heck probably 50 years. Most importantly they are the same quality with a price that can be from 30% or more, less expensive.

Just a typical day at Sun Electronics.

Thank you.

John

SOLAR PANELS HAVE BECOME SO INEXPENSIVE, ITS UNBELIEVABLE.

IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK YOU CAN GET SOLAR PANELS FOR FREE. Example is road signs that get hit by cars. They will give them away, i.e. Bob’s Barricades. OK that may sound ridiculous but we have their modules and they have lasted many years after the fractured glass has been painted with a UV resistant sealant.

They are used in Haiti or the D.R. by people with almost no light due to poverty and/or constant daily power outages all night long. I know, I’ve been there many times. When the power goes out hundreds of thousands of people are in the dark. I have found myself on the outskirts of town driving thru the darkness surrounded by thousands of homes in utter darkness, its freaky. If you get out of the car in a residential area, it really gives you an uncomfortable feeling, FEAR!!!!. Your surrounded by hundreds people that you can’t see. I can’t imagine what its like in the worst impoverished neighborhoods, I can’t imagine how anyone could live like that, but they do.

That’s why I get so pissed off when wealthy manufacturers destroy, literally pay someone to smash Grade B modules or anything that they even think might hurt their reputation or upset their installers if they are sold on the open market. Perfectly good power output, same lifetime at a fraction of the cost. The worst culprit I have ever seen is SunPower. We used to get them for a third of what their cosmetically perfect modules cost. Then they did this:

Their cosmetically imperfect modules were slashed on the back with a box cutter in a huge X. It kept them from working but, they would also begin smoking profusely immediately upon being put in sunlight. You didn’t even have to take them off the pallet. The top one would start immediately. Not only did they take someone’s light source away, they were the most deadly modules you could imagine. At least in my 43 year old experience in PV. What a bunch of selfish idiots. Who’s running that place anyway?

You know of course that solar modules cannot be recycled, its simply not cost effective. So why not donate them at the least, if your not going to sell them. Why destroy them. I’m not talking about modules with broken glass Im talking about Grade B and C , modules with everything intact, unbroken, full power, full lifetime. They simply have small blemishes like scratched glass or frames. Small foreign material under the glass (a piece of thread, hair, tiny scrap of paper), minute cell chips, a couple of barely discolored cells, that’s all folks!

Ask any of the owners who purchased the 1,000 containers of them from us, from all over the USA and Latin America.

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CHOICE OF ALMOST A HUNDRED DIFFERENT ‘DEALS’, INCLUDING SURPLUS MODULES FROM DEVELOPERS OF HUGE PROJECTS, BANKRUPT COMPANIES, LIQUIDATIONS OF OLD  OR OVERSTOCK PANELS, GRADE B AND C COSMETICLY IMPERFECT MODULES AND ON AND ON. WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY SOLAR PANELS FOR AS LITTLE AS $.10/WATT. OFTEN, IN BIG PURCHASES, WE GET HUNDREDS OF MODULES THROWN IN FOR FREE.

If you take anyone with an electric bill higher than .35 to .40 cents per kWh, even a solar panels that costs .75 cents a watt (current retail price) gives you a system that is better to buy than using power from your electric utility company. But only people who live on islands and problems getting elec. hook ups like off grid homes have electricity this high. That’s the point where solar will take over the world. Don’t think the utility companies don’t know that! They want everyone to hook up to their lines with grid connect systems so they can control solar. However, anyway if you are only paying, .28, .38, .48, .58 cents per watt for solar panels that ONLY SUN SELLS,  YOUR IN LIKE FLINT! Of course it depends on other factors, available sunlight, etc. but not on big  incentives anymore, With these module prices you don’t need any stinking incentives. But you can get those as well. 30% from fed. and more from all sorts of others, state, local, and by utilities who are being forced to do it like in Cal. and Hawaii.

I confess at Sun Electronics we keep what we call a Warboard. It’s a current list of all the best unbelievable deals we can get from BIG SUPPLIERS. It includes inverters, and all BOS. We get deals offered to us every day from suppliers all over the world: India, Pakistan, Japan, Germany, England, France, Spain, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Project developers and manufacturers. It’s 3 inches thick.

Our mailing list consists of BIG BUYERS and small buyers. I’M A HORDER AND IN 43 YEARS OF SOLAR, I HAVE SAVED AND TREASURED EVERY ONE OF MY CONTACTS. I have a scrap book from day one and a copy of all the customers and contacts I have worked with in the last 43 years. are you ready for this…250,000 of them.

I have never seen so many unbelievable prices, in fact its become so difficult to keep up with them that I can’t. You name them it includes every major brand, well except SunPower as I explained above, unless we want to buy them from certified dealers who happily sell them to us at $1.50 a watt, yea right, not.

One note: No one else has had the success or experience getting these modules and competitors would rather spend their time telling people lies about their quality as well as Sun Electronics. Trust me I’ve personally called most of them and some like Wholesale Solar regularly, and asked about the solar panels they have and then point out I can get them at half the price from Sun Electronics and you wouldn’t believe what they say about Sun Electronics. And oh man, the copy cats, look we’ve sold more low cost/cost effective modules than any other company in the world. I truely believe that. Same goes for back-up power systems. 250,000 in Haiti, Dominican Republic, Philippines, Cambodia, Colombia, Mexico, Africa and Central America.

Blah, Blah, Blah I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF SOLAR AND RENEWABLE ENERGY and I intend to promote it by selling the lowest priced solar panels to people as I can. That’s my simple solution to getting people to use solar, LOWER THE FUCKING PRICE AND BE HONEST ABOUT IT. TO ME, IT’S WAR, US AGAINST THE POLLUTERS. ITS A WAR TO PROTECT OUR PLANET, IT’S ENVIROMENT, FOR THE PEOPLE, PLANTS AND ANIMALS.

JOHN

HOWEVER, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS INSIDE YOU. MY FAVORITE PRAYER IS “THE OUR FATHER.” AND MY FAVORITE PART OF THE “OUR FATHER” IS

“THEY KINGDOM COME THEY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.’’ if we would all stop thinking for a second or even a few minutes, we might realize THIS IS HEAVEN RIGHT HERE ON EARTH. I’M NOT SAYING i KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE BUT THIS IS ONE HELL OF A PLACE TO CALL HOME. IT IS HEAVEN WHEN WE DON’T GET ALL CAUGHT UP IN SOME STUPID CONCEPT, ISN’T IT. SEEMS LIKE IT TO ME. WE DO HAVE OUR MOODS THOUGH, YEAH, I KNOW I SURE DO.

 

I saw how dishonest the solar industry could be when solar water heating was the biggest technology (PV hadn’t been born yet). I vowed when I started Sun Electric (the original name) that being known as an honest person and having a solar company that was honest would be the best PR I could have.

JK

More BS from the two biggest subjects in the news:

California Companies Form Partnership for Solar+Storage A recent story in the news media. It’s a joke.

You don’t need to read it, you can just call me and I’ll tell you about how we were responsible for selling 250,000 battery back up systems in ( hey why do we even need back up in the USA? Try Haiti, The Dominican Republic, Pakistan, Iraq, Afganistan, Syria. They would just laugh at us!) anyway as I was saying, all you need is to buy an inverter with a built in battery charger and an automatic transfer switch. 

Oh and the batteries? Forget all about all this talk about so called new fantastic batteries because they come with a new fantastic price. I truely  believe that there is no better deal than the old fashioned wet lead acid battery. 6 volt, 2oo amp hr. golf cart battery. I’ll take $100 ea. versus $3,000 apiece any day.

This, trying to use all this fancy new advertising, techno hype, show biz over batteries for people who have no real blackout problems is simply stupid, it’s also a scam perpetrated by a desperate few in the solar industry. Anyone whoever bought a solar system without a built in battery charger in their inverter and a set of batteries was an idiot.

And while I’m at it. Hooking up to the utility industry was even more stupid. Grid connected PV systems go together like lawyers and ladders. As I said to my friend Stu Rose at Roasters and Toasters one day. “Having the utility industry involved in the solar industry is a conflict of interest” his immediate response was “oh, do you think so?” 

While I feel like saying it, the latest solar scam,  in fact, scam in general period, is the telephone pitch to solar companies from telemarketers offering qualified solar home system leads for buyers. I get three a day now. For up to 10,000 a year they will send you leads from the entire USA. The leads are any home where sunlight falls on the home’s roof. I’m serious folks.

Mark my words SUN CITY will crash and burn. So will the people who purchased , oops they didn’t buy it,  they just leased it and/or the space on their roof for some contractual mess they can never get out of. Besides, people shouldn’t borrow money, especially in America, what is it going to take to get us to realize this. I even understood that the taxpayers of New York via  government bureaucrats,  just gave Sun City $500,000 million to build  that gigantic PV factory there. It too will go down inflames. It’s insane, I have a headache.
JK

Some Solar Distributors are  trying to make more than a 30% percent gross profit. We lose money almost every year. I’ve loaned my company millions. We’re not even as good as a non-profit! We’re a pro-loss solar company supported by me folks because I’ve been funding my own private war against the utility companies, polluters, destroyers of our environmental resources and its plants and especially animals, yeah that’s right fucking animals. I think plants and animals on land and in the rivers, lakes and oceans are AWSOME. 

It’s worth fighting for, if you want my opinion, it should be everyone’s opinion. Money is the root of all evil. Go solar.

Oh and another thing, life is short, so get as much happiness out of it as you can, no matter if the whole world says not to.

One thing I can remember Prince for, was him singing, “Party like its 1994.” Just try not to do all the partying on alcohol, sex and drugs. “There’s always more than one way to skin a cat”, I always say. Try other things, like paintball, anything ending in ball, or in the water. Slow down, contemplate where we are and how lucky we are to be alive every second. Did you miss that one?

JK

Goodnight

Google’s Sun reviews.

They are all 4 years old when we did the Evergreen Auction for 7 MW. We lost a million dollars. Sold it all to 800 people in 5 days. It was the “PEFECT STORM.” If I told you how bad it was, you would’nt believe it. 

To be continued. As a result of it we have a terrible score for Google reviews. Unfortunately, they don’t  care to hear our side of the story. Your guilty till proven innocent. Google is rigged against us, it’s a monster without a heart.
THK U

JK

Wholesale Solar’s Prices Are So Much Higher. So Why Are We So Hard To Find On Google?

When you look at the two websites, Sunelec’s and one of our biggest competitors, Wholesale Solar, you immediately see the vast differences in pricing between our unbelievably low pricing and their unbelievably high pricing. Why is this?

We Try Harder but they’re Computer Geeks (I have nothing against smart people and they are smart). Basically that sums it up. Without Google they would never have registered more than a couple of blips on the radar screen of the PV Industry.

But at what? At bringing the cost of solar down to where more people can afford it.

One thing we can’t do however, is design our web site as well, but we’re working on it. Wholesale has managed to dominate the internet for PV advertising. They’re no. 1. Why? Because the advertising system at Google is completely rigged against anyone who isn’t a computer expert or doesn’t have that unique intimate knowledge their incredibly complicated technology for manipulating their system (constantly changing algorithms, etc., etc..) But what does that have to do with anything PV? Absolutely Nothing! It’s like someone is great at baking cakes so they get to be number one on every page dealing with renewable energy on Google.

Being a computer advertising wiznerd re: Google, doesn’t do anything to decrease PV costs, increase module’s efficiency or spread the use of cost effective PV. However, if the main source of your business is in California, like Wholesale Solar’s is, where all systems are practically free because “other people have to pay for them” via incentives. It kind of reminds me of the way Washington works. Lobbyist’s (computer experts) getting paid to make donations to re-election campaigns (pay per click Google Adwords) to get Politician’s (Google) to promote legislation to increase their business so they can rake in more money via their constituent’s business (the people, the public, PV buyers.) Do you know what I mean. We can’t be seen because of all their stinking ads on every single aspect of PV. I’m sick and tired of it and I’m not going to to sit here anymore and say nothing. Google has a monopoly and now, so does Wholesale Solar.

It’s time Google took into consideration which companies they are going to allow to dominate product categories especially solar energy, which to me, of course, is critical to our future. These companies not their sites should be considered. They should be evaluated on affordability of systems and components especially the most critical one, PV modules, are evaluated on their history, their expertise, quality, technical support, languages spoken, years experience in shipping and whether its worldwide or just Northern California.

What logical purpose does that serve? Does it lower the price of PV? Does it enable more people to be able to buy a PV powered home. Of course not, it just makes it harder to find Sun Electronics, a company  with truly, “THE WORLD’S LOWEST PV PRICES.”

I’m not going to spend a fortune on cracking Google advertisement placement Algorithms and placing $1,000,000’s worth of Google pay per click ads every year. Then we would have to have prices as high as Wholesale Solar and almost every other PV Distributor.

My next ad:  “YOU’VE BEEN ROBBED!, IF YOU’VE BOUGHT PV MODULES FROM ANYONE ELSE OTHER THAN JOHN KIMBALL AT SUN ELECTRONICS.’‘ Look, I’m really not crazy, its not my fault, I’ve been promoting solar longer (43 years, since 1973, when I found that old solar oven and fried bacon) and harder than just about anyone in AMERICA,.

Look the people that work at any solar promotion are great because they are part of the movement, I’m just so frustrated that our SEO Sales Engine Optimization efforts to get seen on Google have been so thwarted over the years. We were always on the first page for then one day we were notified that someone had put 30,000 bad back links (whatever that is) on our website 3 years ago. whoever did it, put a lot of effort and money into it. It would have taken many months.These back links were websites that had nothing to do with solar energy or renewable energy, my personal opinion is that it was Wholesale Solar but I have no evidence. The result is that they took over the internet.  Because we are one of the oldest distributors on the internet and had the most popular site (always with unbelievable lower prices than everyone else) were Number 1. After the attack Google stripped us of the right to be seen anywhere on the worldwide web. It was devastating but we are coming back.

 

John