IF YOU KNOW WHERE TO LOOK YOU CAN GET SOLAR PANELS FOR FREE. Example is road signs that get hit by cars. They will give them away, i.e. Bob’s Barricades. OK that may sound ridiculous but we have their modules and they have lasted many years after the fractured glass has been painted with a UV resistant sealant.
They are used in Haiti or the D.R. by people with almost no light due to poverty and/or constant daily power outages all night long. I know, I’ve been there many times. When the power goes out hundreds of thousands of people are in the dark. I have found myself on the outskirts of town driving thru the darkness surrounded by thousands of homes in utter darkness, its freaky. If you get out of the car in a residential area, it really gives you an uncomfortable feeling, FEAR!!!!. Your surrounded by hundreds people that you can’t see. I can’t imagine what its like in the worst impoverished neighborhoods, I can’t imagine how anyone could live like that, but they do.
That’s why I get so pissed off when wealthy manufacturers destroy, literally pay someone to smash Grade B modules or anything that they even think might hurt their reputation or upset their installers if they are sold on the open market. Perfectly good power output, same lifetime at a fraction of the cost. The worst culprit I have ever seen is SunPower. We used to get them for a third of what their cosmetically perfect modules cost. Then they did this:
Their cosmetically imperfect modules were slashed on the back with a box cutter in a huge X. It kept them from working but, they would also begin smoking profusely immediately upon being put in sunlight. You didn’t even have to take them off the pallet. The top one would start immediately. Not only did they take someone’s light source away, they were the most deadly modules you could imagine. At least in my 43 year old experience in PV. What a bunch of selfish idiots. Who’s running that place anyway?
You know of course that solar modules cannot be recycled, its simply not cost effective. So why not donate them at the least, if your not going to sell them. Why destroy them. I’m not talking about modules with broken glass Im talking about Grade B and C , modules with everything intact, unbroken, full power, full lifetime. They simply have small blemishes like scratched glass or frames. Small foreign material under the glass (a piece of thread, hair, tiny scrap of paper), minute cell chips, a couple of barely discolored cells, that’s all folks!
Ask any of the owners who purchased the 1,000 containers of them from us, from all over the USA and Latin America.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CHOICE OF ALMOST A HUNDRED DIFFERENT ‘DEALS’, INCLUDING SURPLUS MODULES FROM DEVELOPERS OF HUGE PROJECTS, BANKRUPT COMPANIES, LIQUIDATIONS OF OLD OR OVERSTOCK PANELS, GRADE B AND C COSMETICLY IMPERFECT MODULES AND ON AND ON. WE’VE BEEN ABLE TO BUY SOLAR PANELS FOR AS LITTLE AS $.10/WATT. OFTEN, IN BIG PURCHASES, WE GET HUNDREDS OF MODULES THROWN IN FOR FREE.
If you take anyone with an electric bill higher than .35 to .40 cents per kWh, even a solar panels that costs .75 cents a watt (current retail price) gives you a system that is better to buy than using power from your electric utility company. But only people who live on islands and problems getting elec. hook ups like off grid homes have electricity this high. That’s the point where solar will take over the world. Don’t think the utility companies don’t know that! They want everyone to hook up to their lines with grid connect systems so they can control solar. However, anyway if you are only paying, .28, .38, .48, .58 cents per watt for solar panels that ONLY SUN SELLS, YOUR IN LIKE FLINT! Of course it depends on other factors, available sunlight, etc. but not on big incentives anymore, With these module prices you don’t need any stinking incentives. But you can get those as well. 30% from fed. and more from all sorts of others, state, local, and by utilities who are being forced to do it like in Cal. and Hawaii.
I confess at Sun Electronics we keep what we call a Warboard. It’s a current list of all the best unbelievable deals we can get from BIG SUPPLIERS. It includes inverters, and all BOS. We get deals offered to us every day from suppliers all over the world: India, Pakistan, Japan, Germany, England, France, Spain, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Project developers and manufacturers. It’s 3 inches thick.
Our mailing list consists of BIG BUYERS and small buyers. I’M A HORDER AND IN 43 YEARS OF SOLAR, I HAVE SAVED AND TREASURED EVERY ONE OF MY CONTACTS. I have a scrap book from day one and a copy of all the customers and contacts I have worked with in the last 43 years. are you ready for this…250,000 of them.
I have never seen so many unbelievable prices, in fact its become so difficult to keep up with them that I can’t. You name them it includes every major brand, well except SunPower as I explained above, unless we want to buy them from certified dealers who happily sell them to us at $1.50 a watt, yea right, not.
One note: No one else has had the success or experience getting these modules and competitors would rather spend their time telling people lies about their quality as well as Sun Electronics. Trust me I’ve personally called most of them and some like Wholesale Solar regularly, and asked about the solar panels they have and then point out I can get them at half the price from Sun Electronics and you wouldn’t believe what they say about Sun Electronics. And oh man, the copy cats, look we’ve sold more low cost/cost effective modules than any other company in the world. I truely believe that. Same goes for back-up power systems. 250,000 in Haiti, Dominican Republic, Philippines, Cambodia, Colombia, Mexico, Africa and Central America.
Blah, Blah, Blah I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF SOLAR AND RENEWABLE ENERGY and I intend to promote it by selling the lowest priced solar panels to people as I can. That’s my simple solution to getting people to use solar, LOWER THE FUCKING PRICE AND BE HONEST ABOUT IT. TO ME, IT’S WAR, US AGAINST THE POLLUTERS. ITS A WAR TO PROTECT OUR PLANET, IT’S ENVIROMENT, FOR THE PEOPLE, PLANTS AND ANIMALS.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED IS INSIDE YOU. MY FAVORITE PRAYER IS “THE OUR FATHER.” AND MY FAVORITE PART OF THE “OUR FATHER” IS
“THEY KINGDOM COME THEY WILL BE DONE ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.’’ if we would all stop thinking for a second or even a few minutes, we might realize THIS IS HEAVEN RIGHT HERE ON EARTH. I’M NOT SAYING i KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE BUT THIS IS ONE HELL OF A PLACE TO CALL HOME. IT IS HEAVEN WHEN WE DON’T GET ALL CAUGHT UP IN SOME STUPID CONCEPT, ISN’T IT. SEEMS LIKE IT TO ME. WE DO HAVE OUR MOODS THOUGH, YEAH, I KNOW I SURE DO.
I saw how dishonest the solar industry could be when solar water heating was the biggest technology (PV hadn’t been born yet). I vowed when I started Sun Electric (the original name) that being known as an honest person and having a solar company that was honest would be the best PR I could have.